Le journal de Annie Boban – Dnevnik Annie Boban – Annie’s Diary parte (5)
Le journal de Annie Boban parte (5)
Nous sommes donc arrivés la bas, montons au 6eme étage et arrivons devant Mr. Torwash et comme je l’avais prédit, la seule chose qu’il voulait était à nous redonner le portefeuille, plus les photocopies de ce que la F.B.I. avait gardées. Milan se faisait du souci à propos d’un mot qu’il avait écrit sur Branko Kujundžić. A cause du cas de Rafo, frère à Milan. Notre avocat Dennis avait demandé tout ce que l’on peut savoir sur Branko et un jour, à 11h30 du matin je l’avais vu a Safeway (grocery store) avec Nada Batković. Si je l’avais vu tout seul, je n’aurais certainement rien dit à Milan, mais de voir une fille mineure de Ante Batković qui était à cette heure ci avec un homme de 45 ans marié, et elle aurait dû être à l’école, m’avait tellement surpris. De plus, Milan était parti au travail et lorsque je suis revenue de Safeway store, Milan est arrivé à la maison pour le lunch. Cette rencontre toute fraîche dans ma mémoire, je lui ai dit qui j’avais vu. Milan ouvre son portefeuille et mets la date et l’heure à laquelle cela s’était passé pour le répéter à son frère Rafo.
Et, depuis, Milan avait oublié cette note. Comme Branko est le principal témoin pour la prosecution, le F.B.I. pourrait dire qu’on surveillait les faits et les gestes de Branko. Mr. Tarawash ne pose absolument aucune question et nous sommes partis vers la maison. Dans l’après- midi Milan est parti au travail.
Vendredi 3 Juillet 1981
Zvonko Pavelić davait arrived at S.F. Airport at 11h 05. Nous sommes partis un peu plus tôt pour aller chercher les journaux qui arrivent d’Australie, Hrvatski Tjednik. A 11h30 nous étions sur le chemin d’aller chez Dennis, l’avocat Milan à Oakland. Nous sommes arrivés la bas vers 12:00, avons attendu quelque 20 minutes dans la salle d’attente. Enfin Dennis nous reçoit, nous lui avons présenté Zvonko Pavelić et en regardant dans son bureau, nous nous apercevons qu’il était l’avocat d’Angela Davis, membre de Black Panther organization, pour Dennis Banks, (un Indiant lutteur) et Chicago 7 est…ce qui nous dit qu’il doit être un bon avocat, cher mais bon.
Zvonko Pavelić est arrivé avec une “briefcase” pleine d’informations et il a voulu les présenter à Dennis avant que Milan ne parle. Il a donc sorti ces informations et pendant plus de 3 heures, il a raconté les plus extraordinaires histoires sur les actions d’agents yougoslaves (UDBA) qui se sont infiltrés parmi les Croates. De vraies histoires de James Bond.
Je suis maintenent incapable de me rappele de tout ce que j’ai appris ce jour la, car il y avait tellemnt de noms, tellement d’evenements ect…que ma tete aurait eclate si Zvonko ne s’etait pas arrete. Je vois que Dennis se sentait pareil. Enfin, Zvonko a quitté la pièce et Dennis nous a parlé et nous a recommandé de ne pas parler de trop même à Zvonko de ce qui est entre nous. “Méfions nous, méfions nous de tout le monde. Zvonko a l’air honnête et prêt à risquer sa carrière mais pourquoi? Dennis voudrait savoir pourquoi. Nous laissons les papiers à Denis que nous avons recherché et trouvé l’avant veille, quelques livrets pour qu’il se familiarise avec le problème croate et, nous partons. Nous dînons à Mays Oyster House de nouveau et arrivés à la maison. Milan et Zvonko parlent quelques 1 ou 2 heures.
Dimanche 5 July 1981.
Milan je telefonirao u Federalnu zgradu u San Francisco u vezi svog novčenika. Rekli su mu da nazove u petak ujutro. Počeli smo tražiti razne spise, novinske članke itd….za odvjetnika Milan je telefonirao Zvonku Paveliću, detektivu L.A.P.D-a, tj. Detektiv Kriminalnog Odjeljena Los Angelesa koji mu je obećao doći u petak ujutro s podacima o svim “terorističkim” akcijama koje su se dogodile u Los Angelesu i okolici, a u koje su bili uključeni Hrvati. Došla je jedna novinarka iz redakcije “Boutique Village ” intervjuirati Milana. (Danas, srijeda 12 listopada 2022. dok ovo prepisujem prilažem sliku tog članka. Ja sam tada živio južno od San Francisca u predgrađu Hillsborough. Naslov je: “Hillsborough man held as Croatian terrorist leader” = Čovjek iz Hillsborough uhapšen je kao vođa hrvatskog terorizma. Građevinski stručnjak, gr.st. Mile Boban.)
U 9 ujutro Milan telefonira F.B.I.-u u Federalnoj zgradi a g. Tarwash (?) ga je zamolio da dođe u 11h ujutro i da će imati pitanja za njega. Milan je otišao na posao samo 2 sata. Vratio se oko 11:45 i otišao za San Francisco. Cijelim putem se brinuo “kakva će mi to pitanja postavljati? Što su to našli u mojem novčaniku što bi me moglo okriviti više nego što već jesam?” Ja sam Milanu rekla i ponovila “oni to govore samo da te zastraše, da ti se igraju sa živcima. Ako su nešto našli, imali su 5 dana da te ispitaju dok si bio u zatvoru”. To mu je barem malo podiglo raspoloženje, iako sam i ja bila zabrinuta koliko i on.
Tako smo stigli tamo, popeli se na 6 est kat i stigli pred gospodina Torwasha i kao što sam predvididjala samo jedino pitanje a to je da nam vrati novčanik, plus fotokopije onoga što je F.B.I. zadržala. Milana je zabrinula bilješka koju je on napisao o Branku Kujundžiću zbog slučaja o Rafi, milanov brat. Naš odvjetnik Dennis na je pitao da mu sve kažemo što znamo o Branku. Jednog dana, u 11:30 ujutro, vidjela sam ga u Safewayu (trgovina) s Nadom Batković. Da sam ja vidjela samo njega, za sigurno ne bih ništa rekla Milanu, ali vidjeti jednu od malodobnih kćeri Ante Batkovića koja je u ovaj sat i ovo vrijeme bila s 45-godišnjim oženjenim muškarcem, a ona je trebala biti u školi, toliko me je iznenadilo. Također, Milan je otišao na posao a kada sam se ja vratila iz Safeway trgovine, Milan je stigao kući na ručak. Ovaj susret mi je u svjež u sjećanju, pa sam rekla Milanu koga sam vidjela. Milan je zapisao datum i vrijeme kad se je to dogodilo, otvorio i stavio u novčanik, tako da to sve može reći bratu Rafi.
I do tada Milan je zaboravio za tu bilješku u novčeniku. Kako je Branko glavni “svjedok” optužbe protiv Milana, sada F.B.I. može reći da smo mi nadzirali Brankove postupke i geste. Gospodin Tarawash nije postavljao apsolutno nikakva pitanja i smo otišli kući. Popodne je Milan otišao radio.
Petak, 3. srpnja 1981
Zvonko Pavelić je stigao u zračnu luku S.F. u 11.05 sati, a mi smo krenuli nešto ranije kako bi preuzeli novine Hrvatski Tjednik iz Australije. U 11:30 ujutro bili smo na putu prema Dennisu, Milanovom odvjetniku u Oaklandu. Tamo smo stigli oko 12:00, čekali smo 20-ak minuta u čekaonici. Konačno nas prima Dennis, upoznajemo ga sa Zvonkom Pavelićem i gledajući po njegovu ured, vidjeli smo da je on bio odvjetnik Angele Davis, članice organizacije Black Panther, Dennisa Banksa (indijanskog borca za indijanska prava) i Chicago 7edam itd… što nam govori da mora biti dobar odvjetnik, da je skup ali i da je dobar.
Zvonko Pavelić je došao s “aktovkom” torbom punom podataka koje je želio predati Dennisu prije nego Milan počme govoriti. On je izvukao tu informaciju i više od 3 sata pričao najneobičnije priče o djelovanju jugoslavenskih agenata (UDBA) koji su se infiltrirali među Hrvate. meni to sve izgledalo kao neke priče o Jamesu Bondu.
Ne mogu se sada sjetiti svega što sam taj dan čula, jer je bilo toga toliko mnogo, i imena, i događaja itd… da bi mi glava eksplodirala da Zvonko nije stao. Vidim da se Dennis osjećao isto kao i ja. Na kraju je Zvonko otišao, a Dennis je razgovarao s nama i savjetovao nam da ni sa Zvonkom ne pričamo previše o tome što je između nas. “Čuvajmo se, čuvajmo se svih. Zvonko izgleda pošten i spreman je riskirati svoju karijeru, ali zašto”? Dennis bi želio znati zašto. Mi Dennisu ostavljamo sve papire koje smo tražili i našli dan prije, neke knjige i časopise da se on upozna s hrvatskim problemom i, odlazimo. Opet iđemo na večeramo u Mayes Oyster House i, naravno poslije večer idemo kući. Mile i Zvonko razgovaraju nekih 1- 2 sata.
Milan kopira ono što je Zvonko donio iz Los Angelesa i oko 9 ujutro odlaze kod Tome Tomića da ga pitaju što zna o Ivi Vučičeviću koji je svake subote od 2 do 3 sata držao Hrvatski radio. No, naravno, Tome nije htio ništa priznati, ničega se nije sjećao. Ostavljaju Tomu i kreću prema uzletištu. Odatle Milan odlazi u smjeru “Boutique Villagers”, novina koje izlaze u Hillsborough Burlingame i daje im odgovore na pitanja koja je njihov glavni urednik postavio Milanu u srijedu. Zatim Milan odlazi do svoje sestre Kate i do poslijepodne oko 4 sata kod Zdenke i Rafo i njihove djece, zatim kod Ante i njegove djece da dođu kod nas na večeru. Danas i američki nacionalni praznik 4. srpnja. Nakon večere svi ćemo otići u Foster City vidjeti vatru i svitnjake za Four of July, a Milan, Rafo i Ante odlaze nakon večere u južni dio San Francisco po “poslu” i iza toga dolaze k nama u Foster Cityju. Kad završi veselje idemo kod Zdenke gdje sami palimo petarde. Zatim oko 11h 30 idemo kući.
Wednesday, July 1, 1981
Milan phoned the Federal Building in San Francisco about his portfolio. He was asked to call the next morning, Friday. We started looking for various papers, newspaper articles etc…for the lawyer. Milan phoned Zvonko Pavelić, detective for the A.P.D, and he promised to come Friday morning with information on all the terrorist acts that happened in and around Los Angeles involving Croats. A woman from the newspaper “Boutique Village” comes to interview Milan.
(Today, Wednesday, October 12, 2022, as I write this, I am attaching a photo of this article. I was then living south of San Francisco in the suburb of Hillsborough. The headline reads: “Hillsborough man detained as the leader of Croatian terrorists” = A Croatian man from Hillsborough was arrested as the leader of Croatian terrorism. Mile Boban.)
So we got there, went up to the 6th floor and arrived in front of Mr. Torwash and as I predicted, the only thing he wanted was to give us back the wallet, plus the photocopies of what the F.B.I. had kept. Milan was worried about a note he wrote about Branko Kujundžić. Because of the case of Rafo, Milan’s brother. Our lawyer Dennis had asked everything we could know about Branko and one day, at 11:30 am I had seen him at Safeway (grocery store) with Nada Batković. If I had seen him alone, I certainly would not have said anything to Milan, but to see an underage daughter of Ante Batković who was at this hour with a 45-year-old married man, and she should have been in the school, had surprised me so much. Also, Milan had gone to work and when I came back from the Safeway store, Milan arrived home for lunch. This encounter fresh in my memory, I told Milan who I had seen. Milan opens his wallet and puts in the date and time it happened to repeat it to his brother Rafo.
And, since then, Milan had forgotten this note. As Branko is the main witness for the prosecution, the F.B.I. could say that Branko’s actions and gestures were being watched. Mr. Tarawash asks absolutely no questions and we head home. In the afternoon Milan left for work.
Friday, July 3, 1981
Zvonko Pavelić arrived at San Francisco. Airport at 11:05 a.m. We left a little earlier to pick up the newspapers arriving from Australia, Hrvatski Tjednik. At 11:30 a.m. we were on our way to Dennis, Milan’s attorney in Oakland. We arrived there around 12:00, and waited about 20 minutes in the waiting room. Finally Dennis receives us, we introduced him Zvonko Pavelić and looking in his office, we realize that he was the lawyer of Angela Davis, member of Black Panther organization, for Dennis Banks, (an Indian fighter) and Chicago 7 is…which tells us that he must be a good lawyer, but expensive and good.
Zvonko Pavelić arrived with a ‘briefcase’ full of information and he wanted to present it to Dennis before Milan spoke. So he took out this information and for more than 3 hours he told the most extraordinary stories about the actions of Yugoslav agents (UDBA) who infiltrated among the Croats. Real James Bond stories.
I am now unable to remember everything I learned that day, because there were so many names, so many events etc… that my head would have exploded if Zvonko had not stopped. I see Dennis felt the same way. Finally, Zvonko left the room and Dennis talked to us and recommended that we not talk too much even to Zvonko about what is between us. “Let’s beware, beware of everyone. Zvonko looks honest and ready to risk his career but why? Dennis would like to know why. We leave the papers with Denis that we searched for and found the day before, some booklets so that he gets acquainted with the Croatian problem and, we leave, we have dinner at Mayes Oyster House again and arrive at the house, Milan and Zvonko speak for 1 or 2 hours.
Saturday July 4, 1981.
Milan makes copies of what Zvonko brought from Los Angeles and around 9 a.m. they go to Tomo Tomić’s to ask him some questions about what he knows about Ivo Vučičević who had Croatian Radio every Saturday from 2 to 3 p.m. But of course, Tome didn’t want to admit anything, he didn’t remember anything. They leave Tomo and drive to the airport. From there, Milan will take over the management of the “Boutique Villager”, a newspaper which appears in Hillsborough and Burlingame and give them the answers to the questions that their editor-in-chief asked Milan on Wednesday. Then Milan goes to his sister Kata and in the afternoon around 4 o’clock, Zdenka and Rafo and their children, then at Ante and his children come to dine with us. Today and the American national holiday 4th of July. After dinner we will all go to Foster City to see the fireworks. Milan, Rafo and Ante are going to South San Francisco for “business” and join us in Foster City. Once the fireworks are over, we go to Zdenka where we set off our own firecrackers. Around 11:30 , we go home.
Sunday July 5, 1981.
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